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	<title>Comments on: Randy Pausch and Teaching Life&#8217;s Big Issues</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Gubbins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Gubbins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rod, Thanks again for giving wonderful thoughts to the Salem State community. You know my field is ethics and that I moved to studying religion so I could study ethics as it exists around the world. As it stands, about 90% of the world&#039;s people identify themselves with some religious or spiritual set of beliefs. So know that those who feel completely at sea about the meaning of life or humanity&#039;s place in the universe is probably less than 10%. We in the public school system are in a strange place historically. The U.S. has built a line (Madison) or wall (Jefferson) between the church and the state in order to let both spheres of power flourish, and so they have in the U.S.  We who have a pretty solid sense of what a good human life is--whether that is from Aristotle, Plato, St. Augustine, the Buddha, William James, Jesus, Muhammad, Abraham, Lao Tzu, et al. or from an idiosyncratic mix of all the above--can&#039;t endeavor to make disciples of our students. However, what is good to know is that most of these figures are known to us through the power of persuasion--through their stories, principles, writings, exemplary lives, or a mix thereof. All these figures stand within traditions and each of these traditions has a strong strand of providing valid arguments and using what we call common sense and reason.  My hope is that all of us at SSC and in public education feels free--and indeed encouraged--to bring into the classroom lively discussions about what constitutes a good and meaningful life.  Regardless of where the &quot;roots&quot; of our beliefs are, as scholars those &quot;roots&quot; are starting points and reference points, not walls or ceilings. As scholars, we believe in valid arguments, of the search for what&#039;s solid, what&#039;s strikes us as true. We&#039;re curious. We&#039;re ready to amend our beliefs if evidence and experience tells us to. If we identify with the &quot;reasoning&quot; strand within those traditions, then we&#039;re doubly encouraged to proceed to live and teach by honest, hard, reasoning and speaking. I hope we don&#039;t let the church/state divide and the risk of taking on big, contentious issues scare us from engaging in moral conversations in our classes. If Chapter 5, Section 2 of the Mass. Consitution still holds, it is our professional obligation to teach about the big questions so as to build up our students in virtue and wisdom (usually understood as prudence or moral knowledge): &quot;Wisdom, and knowledge, as well as virtue, diffused generally among the body of the people, being necessary for the preservation of their rights and liberties; and as these depend on spreading the opportunities and advantages of education in the various parts of the country, and among the different orders of the people, it shall be the duty of legislatures and magistrates, in all future periods of this commonwealth, to cherish the interests of literature and the sciences . . .&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod, Thanks again for giving wonderful thoughts to the Salem State community. You know my field is ethics and that I moved to studying religion so I could study ethics as it exists around the world. As it stands, about 90% of the world&#8217;s people identify themselves with some religious or spiritual set of beliefs. So know that those who feel completely at sea about the meaning of life or humanity&#8217;s place in the universe is probably less than 10%. We in the public school system are in a strange place historically. The U.S. has built a line (Madison) or wall (Jefferson) between the church and the state in order to let both spheres of power flourish, and so they have in the U.S.  We who have a pretty solid sense of what a good human life is&#8211;whether that is from Aristotle, Plato, St. Augustine, the Buddha, William James, Jesus, Muhammad, Abraham, Lao Tzu, et al. or from an idiosyncratic mix of all the above&#8211;can&#8217;t endeavor to make disciples of our students. However, what is good to know is that most of these figures are known to us through the power of persuasion&#8211;through their stories, principles, writings, exemplary lives, or a mix thereof. All these figures stand within traditions and each of these traditions has a strong strand of providing valid arguments and using what we call common sense and reason.  My hope is that all of us at SSC and in public education feels free&#8211;and indeed encouraged&#8211;to bring into the classroom lively discussions about what constitutes a good and meaningful life.  Regardless of where the &#8220;roots&#8221; of our beliefs are, as scholars those &#8220;roots&#8221; are starting points and reference points, not walls or ceilings. As scholars, we believe in valid arguments, of the search for what&#8217;s solid, what&#8217;s strikes us as true. We&#8217;re curious. We&#8217;re ready to amend our beliefs if evidence and experience tells us to. If we identify with the &#8220;reasoning&#8221; strand within those traditions, then we&#8217;re doubly encouraged to proceed to live and teach by honest, hard, reasoning and speaking. I hope we don&#8217;t let the church/state divide and the risk of taking on big, contentious issues scare us from engaging in moral conversations in our classes. If Chapter 5, Section 2 of the Mass. Consitution still holds, it is our professional obligation to teach about the big questions so as to build up our students in virtue and wisdom (usually understood as prudence or moral knowledge): &#8220;Wisdom, and knowledge, as well as virtue, diffused generally among the body of the people, being necessary for the preservation of their rights and liberties; and as these depend on spreading the opportunities and advantages of education in the various parts of the country, and among the different orders of the people, it shall be the duty of legislatures and magistrates, in all future periods of this commonwealth, to cherish the interests of literature and the sciences . . .&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the thoughtful essay Rod.  I&#039;m reminded of Bill Cosby&#039;s old routine describing courting his philosophy student future wife while majoring in Phys Ed.  To her deep question, &quot;Why is there air?&quot; He replied, &quot;Every PE major knows why there&#039;s air: to blow up basketballs, to blow up volleyballs.&quot; (I paraphrase from distant memory.)  
I&#039;m finding my Salem State first-year students already know the answers.  We can only encourage them to treat college as a luxury where they -- just like their fellow students at Harvard or Hampshire -- the brief opportunity to ask the big questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the thoughtful essay Rod.  I&#8217;m reminded of Bill Cosby&#8217;s old routine describing courting his philosophy student future wife while majoring in Phys Ed.  To her deep question, &#8220;Why is there air?&#8221; He replied, &#8220;Every PE major knows why there&#8217;s air: to blow up basketballs, to blow up volleyballs.&#8221; (I paraphrase from distant memory.)<br />
I&#8217;m finding my Salem State first-year students already know the answers.  We can only encourage them to treat college as a luxury where they &#8212; just like their fellow students at Harvard or Hampshire &#8212; the brief opportunity to ask the big questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry Glasser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry Glasser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Perry Glasser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry Glasser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the distance between student and professor purposes is large, the professor is going to know doubt. 

When I was a public high school English teacher in New York City, we observed our obligation to “meet the students where they are.” That bromide implied an obligation to motivate students to want to move on as learners, and a wise teacher took the time to do so, as students attended high school under threat of legal consequences if they failed to appear. The law hauled them in; if a teacher wanted to avoid threats of violence, broken schoolroom windows, or vandalized cars, the teacher took the time to motivate. Public school teachers are charged with teaching sufficient literacy for civic engagement; a spirit of inquiry or appreciation of the arts is at best a happy by-product, not a goal. My very weakest students sometimes found literacy too challenging; they failed to graduate. My best students enjoyed some exposure to Big Ideas in such classes as AP English. But in Brooklyn, New York, be assured the former far outnumbered the latter . In America, students have the right to fail. In major cities, high school failures outnumber graduates (http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2006-06-20-dropout-rates_x.htm). In Lynn, in 2007, 31.5 percent failed to graduate (http://profiles.doe.mass.edu/state_report/grad_report.aspx?orgcode=01630000&amp;orgtypecode=5&amp;dropDownOrgCode=2).  In Revere, 25 percent (http://profiles.doe.mass.edu/state_report/grad_report.aspx?orgcode=02480505&amp;fycode=2008&amp;orgtypecode=6&amp;). 

But “higher education” likes to presume an audience that is not under duress. College students self-select schools and courses of study at those institutions for their own purposes. No truant officer raps on dormitory doors.  The presumption of willful attendance frees professors from the obligation to motivate—a time-consuming task that requires professors each and every semester justifying themselves and their subjects to an audience that may be doubtful and possibly hostile. 

The presumption is incorrect. Duress exists. The duress is economic. 

At Salem State, and at many schools whose constituency is the sons and daughters of working class people, “education” is equated with social mobility. There are certainly problems with that idea, but if we acknowledge that we have to meet students where they are, instead of wishing they had purposes more closely aligned with our love of pondering Big Ideas, then we have to also acknowledge that the time needed to motivate toward that habit of mind is terribly expensive. Student complaints about being forced to take “irrelevant” subjects are financially justified, not intellectual yahoo-ism or the consequence of misguided high school educations.

The stakes of a leisurely march through Big Idea is simply too high. A generation ago, the cost of a year of private college education might represent 25 – 30 percent of a family’s annual income; today, a year’s cost represents more than a family’s entire annual income, and the cost of four years, including interest on loans, might equal a prospective graduates’ entire income for most of a decade. Pity the family with three children spaced two years apart. Costs at Salem State, at rock bottom prices and with a significant commuter base who are not paying for room and board, still represents a huge investment for the average family from Lynn, Revere, Medford, and other communities for which we are a beacon of hope. Most often, the education we sell constitutes crushing debt for the individual student, a debt that disallows any major in a low salary entry-level career, one that likely means they will not be granted the credit to buy a car or house until they are more than a decade from school, and should they enroll in a program of study that requires graduate education for any hope at a livelihood, the debt becomes all that more overpowering. If high school diplomas are no longer vocational preparation, and graduate degrees are not vocational certification, any undergraduate insisting on a &quot;relevant&quot; program of study is making a considered and intelligent economic demand.

For such students—most of our student body—a core curriculum is an obstacle course. How could it be perceived otherwise? It is not perceived to be a gateway to a world of exciting ideas, contemplation, or intellectual discourse—it’s perceived as a distracting road to economic ruin. And should one fail to navigate the obstacle course, well, the economic burden rises as courses are repeated and graduation is delayed.

Beyond hoping for wealthier students with a philosophic cast of mind, we have alternatives that may restore a doubting professor’s lack of faith in education. We don’t need to resort to grades as carrot or stick. Grades are assessment measures, but education is not only what we assess. At Salem State, we might want to motivate the Humanities as a process of inquiry, not as a set of answers, a process that will lead to lucrative leadership in a set of flexible career choices. The answers to the Big Questions usually reduce to an ethic of reciprocity—the Golden Rule, something common to almost all cultures at all times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_reciprocity). Perhaps Pausch’s lecture is as popular as it is precisely because he offers answers instead of process, and our students see no value to any process that is only an expensive time waster about ideas to which everyone already knows the answers: be nice, have fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the distance between student and professor purposes is large, the professor is going to know doubt. </p>
<p>When I was a public high school English teacher in New York City, we observed our obligation to “meet the students where they are.” That bromide implied an obligation to motivate students to want to move on as learners, and a wise teacher took the time to do so, as students attended high school under threat of legal consequences if they failed to appear. The law hauled them in; if a teacher wanted to avoid threats of violence, broken schoolroom windows, or vandalized cars, the teacher took the time to motivate. Public school teachers are charged with teaching sufficient literacy for civic engagement; a spirit of inquiry or appreciation of the arts is at best a happy by-product, not a goal. My very weakest students sometimes found literacy too challenging; they failed to graduate. My best students enjoyed some exposure to Big Ideas in such classes as AP English. But in Brooklyn, New York, be assured the former far outnumbered the latter . In America, students have the right to fail. In major cities, high school failures outnumber graduates (<a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2006-06-20-dropout-rates_x.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2006-06-20-dropout-rates_x.htm</a>). In Lynn, in 2007, 31.5 percent failed to graduate (<a href="http://profiles.doe.mass.edu/state_report/grad_report.aspx?orgcode=01630000&#038;orgtypecode=5&#038;dropDownOrgCode=2" rel="nofollow">http://profiles.doe.mass.edu/state_report/grad_report.aspx?orgcode=01630000&#038;orgtypecode=5&#038;dropDownOrgCode=2</a>).  In Revere, 25 percent (<a href="http://profiles.doe.mass.edu/state_report/grad_report.aspx?orgcode=02480505&#038;fycode=2008&#038;orgtypecode=6&#038;" rel="nofollow">http://profiles.doe.mass.edu/state_report/grad_report.aspx?orgcode=02480505&#038;fycode=2008&#038;orgtypecode=6&#038;</a>). </p>
<p>But “higher education” likes to presume an audience that is not under duress. College students self-select schools and courses of study at those institutions for their own purposes. No truant officer raps on dormitory doors.  The presumption of willful attendance frees professors from the obligation to motivate—a time-consuming task that requires professors each and every semester justifying themselves and their subjects to an audience that may be doubtful and possibly hostile. </p>
<p>The presumption is incorrect. Duress exists. The duress is economic. </p>
<p>At Salem State, and at many schools whose constituency is the sons and daughters of working class people, “education” is equated with social mobility. There are certainly problems with that idea, but if we acknowledge that we have to meet students where they are, instead of wishing they had purposes more closely aligned with our love of pondering Big Ideas, then we have to also acknowledge that the time needed to motivate toward that habit of mind is terribly expensive. Student complaints about being forced to take “irrelevant” subjects are financially justified, not intellectual yahoo-ism or the consequence of misguided high school educations.</p>
<p>The stakes of a leisurely march through Big Idea is simply too high. A generation ago, the cost of a year of private college education might represent 25 – 30 percent of a family’s annual income; today, a year’s cost represents more than a family’s entire annual income, and the cost of four years, including interest on loans, might equal a prospective graduates’ entire income for most of a decade. Pity the family with three children spaced two years apart. Costs at Salem State, at rock bottom prices and with a significant commuter base who are not paying for room and board, still represents a huge investment for the average family from Lynn, Revere, Medford, and other communities for which we are a beacon of hope. Most often, the education we sell constitutes crushing debt for the individual student, a debt that disallows any major in a low salary entry-level career, one that likely means they will not be granted the credit to buy a car or house until they are more than a decade from school, and should they enroll in a program of study that requires graduate education for any hope at a livelihood, the debt becomes all that more overpowering. If high school diplomas are no longer vocational preparation, and graduate degrees are not vocational certification, any undergraduate insisting on a &#8220;relevant&#8221; program of study is making a considered and intelligent economic demand.</p>
<p>For such students—most of our student body—a core curriculum is an obstacle course. How could it be perceived otherwise? It is not perceived to be a gateway to a world of exciting ideas, contemplation, or intellectual discourse—it’s perceived as a distracting road to economic ruin. And should one fail to navigate the obstacle course, well, the economic burden rises as courses are repeated and graduation is delayed.</p>
<p>Beyond hoping for wealthier students with a philosophic cast of mind, we have alternatives that may restore a doubting professor’s lack of faith in education. We don’t need to resort to grades as carrot or stick. Grades are assessment measures, but education is not only what we assess. At Salem State, we might want to motivate the Humanities as a process of inquiry, not as a set of answers, a process that will lead to lucrative leadership in a set of flexible career choices. The answers to the Big Questions usually reduce to an ethic of reciprocity—the Golden Rule, something common to almost all cultures at all times (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_reciprocity" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_reciprocity</a>). Perhaps Pausch’s lecture is as popular as it is precisely because he offers answers instead of process, and our students see no value to any process that is only an expensive time waster about ideas to which everyone already knows the answers: be nice, have fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcia Weinstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcia Weinstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful essay! I am a professor who still asks her students to grapple with the issues that you raise therein, particularly in PSY322 Adulthood &amp; Old Age; a week of assignments on the syllabus is devoted to &quot;Finding Meaning.&quot; Searching for timeless truth on a personal level is no longer as fashionable an enterprise in the academy as it was 35 years ago, but it is still around. Trust me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful essay! I am a professor who still asks her students to grapple with the issues that you raise therein, particularly in PSY322 Adulthood &amp; Old Age; a week of assignments on the syllabus is devoted to &#8220;Finding Meaning.&#8221; Searching for timeless truth on a personal level is no longer as fashionable an enterprise in the academy as it was 35 years ago, but it is still around. Trust me.</p>
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		<title>By: richard elia</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard elia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rod:  Enjoyed your essay. As to questions, part of the beauty of literature--whether addressed via lecture or q&amp;a-- is that they do ask important questions.  We may not always like their answers. The Odyssey deals with the affirmation and importance of life; Oedipus with humanism and providentialism; Medea about rejection and divorce; the Apology with whether the unexamined life is worth living; Shakespeare about everything;  Thoreau about values... The questions are part of the spiritual journey toward the unanswerable, of living, as Tennyson said, &quot;with honest doubt,&quot; which some (perhaps many) cannot.  I don&#039;t know what constitutes education;  I do know I love learning. If you love to learn, you can educate, and not just yourself.  If you love to learn, confidence, I find, increases, and the nagging questions about the efficacy of education become better tempered, and you realize that education for its own sake is an excellent remedy,  and that sometimes just teaching and learning for yourself is a wonderful thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod:  Enjoyed your essay. As to questions, part of the beauty of literature&#8211;whether addressed via lecture or q&amp;a&#8211; is that they do ask important questions.  We may not always like their answers. The Odyssey deals with the affirmation and importance of life; Oedipus with humanism and providentialism; Medea about rejection and divorce; the Apology with whether the unexamined life is worth living; Shakespeare about everything;  Thoreau about values&#8230; The questions are part of the spiritual journey toward the unanswerable, of living, as Tennyson said, &#8220;with honest doubt,&#8221; which some (perhaps many) cannot.  I don&#8217;t know what constitutes education;  I do know I love learning. If you love to learn, you can educate, and not just yourself.  If you love to learn, confidence, I find, increases, and the nagging questions about the efficacy of education become better tempered, and you realize that education for its own sake is an excellent remedy,  and that sometimes just teaching and learning for yourself is a wonderful thing.</p>
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